(April 17, 2015 at 3:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hope in one hand, shit in the other, you know the saying. The right to self determination does not include the right to discriminate - we've already covered this ground. In fact -no- individual right (when a right exists) extends so far as to trample on another's. If you want to talk about rights, you absolutely do not get to make shit up as you go, or interpret them however you please. You understand that..eh?
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You are just outright wrong there. The right to self determination does include the right to discriminate. A baker can refuse to bake a cake that says, "God hates fags". The baker doesn't have to server the homophobe. The only time a baker can not discriminate is when a class is protected by law.
Do gays need such protection? No, there simply are not many businesses which will refuse to serve them or refuse to hire them. You call me a gay hater but I have probably hired and promoted more gays than you know. If I owned bakery, I'd bake a cake that reads, "Congratulations Adam and Steve"....hell I'd bake a cake for the KKK....I'd go after any sale I can get. But you sir. You have the right to refuse to serve the KKK and you have the right to refuse to serve gays. You have the right to refuse to serve me....just because you don't like me. You should even have the right to refuse to serve blacks as far as I am concerned because I don't believe they still require protection.
What is a shame is that you guys demonize me, call me a gay hater and such simply because I value the right of self determination over preventing butthurt. Esquilax did the same with Hetshepsut by calling her a psychopath or what ever the insult was. This despicable behavior of demonizing people who don't share your values or priorities is disgusting and you people should simply stand in some corner somewhere and hang your heads in shame.
