(April 17, 2015 at 11:49 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(April 17, 2015 at 10:42 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The potential for change already assumes a something.What's wrong with that? Given that something exists, either it always existed, or some potential must have existed which enabled it to come into existence. What other possibilities could there logically be?
If you want to talk about infinite regression, we can talk about that.
I think we have to accept that either infinite regression or universal eternity is the reality, and we are philosophically fucked as soon as we try to address that.
Surgenator is trying to show that I am presupposing my conclusion within my argument. If true, this would be a logical fallacy (specifically, begging the question or circular logic). However, I do not believe that the argument does this, and I tried to say why I think it does not make this presupposition in my previous post.