Proof of God

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Harris: Good and Bad have no meaning without God, so God must be real.
Others: ***provide countless meaningful definitions of good and bad not dependent on God***
Harris: Yes, but Good and Bad have no meaning without God, so God.

The moral argument for god in a nutshell.

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Prove the necessary being is a thinking being.

Summa Theological, fifth way I.e. final cause.

If Aquinas ever actually tried to show his arguments to be sound I'd take them seriously. There's more to a good deductive argument than mere validity, the premises have to be true.

The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

Why are we believe that the bolded premise is true? The fact that we have localized cases of unintelligent beings producing order effects counts for something, since we can't just assume god or not god from the start without begging the question.