RE: Being gay is a fetish.
April 24, 2015 at 9:23 am
(This post was last modified: April 24, 2015 at 9:50 am by Neo-Scholastic.)
(April 24, 2015 at 7:17 am)Yeauxleaux Wrote:(April 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm)Mezmo! Wrote: I love when atheists like Brian beclown themselves by making claim to human rights while simultaneously denying transcendent absolutes.Leave it to the "transcendent absolutes" to dictate what "human rights" are, you get Medieval Europe; Witch-hunts, executions over petty crimes, irrational laws. You also get, which is still happening, an open denial of scientific evidence that actually puts us in danger (such as denying global warming)
As Richard Dawkins said, human rights and modern morality have come on over centuries of rational discussion and logical debate. They're not plucked out of thin air, and they make for a better society than "this book says this is the law, so follow it". I know which society I'd rather live in. Everything should be open for discussion and debate, and yes that includes the right for gays to marry. However, some things like gay marriage there are very weak arguments against, which is why the argument fails and why you make an ass of yourself for trying. Stay pressed though.
The point is that human rights come from a higher authority than personal opinions, group consensus, state mandate. If these are source of one's human rights, then they can be taken away by the same processes. You have human rights regardless of whether the government recognizes them or not.
I am open to the idea that the state legal prohibitions and social justifications against sodomy laws and prohibitions against gay marriage may not be as compelling as once believed. But the hyperbole, false accusations, and vilification of those with opposing views does not produce meaningful discussion of the issues. They lead only to resentment. As I said earlier, I have a live-and-let-live attitude with regards to peoples personal lives. They are accountable only to themselves and the Lord. Yes, I have a very traditional attitude towards various heterosexual and homosexual practices based on my sincere belief that proper behavior can be rationally determined by observation of the dispositional properties of the human body in conjunction with desired ends and values. This belief is consistent with my other opinions about the mind, human nature and the nature of reality. These issues I have discussed elsewhere and have not found the arguments against my positions rationally consistent or compelling.
In contrast to claims of people like Esquilax, my claims are not arguments of convenience to justify whatever opinion I have at the moment. They adhere as a somewhat complete and generally consistent whole. In fact, the recent gay marriage issue has caused me to further develop my beliefs in that area as well as others. For example, I now feel there is a compelling natural law argument against smoking apart from the health issues involved. Previously, I would have been less inclined to condemn various sexual practices but have come to a better understanding of how these specific types of sin undermine the Providential order.