Proof of God

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You are. Atheism has nothing to say about prejudices. All atheism is is that we don't think that gods exist.
Now atheists tend to be less prejudiced than theists but that is because we tend to evaluate things using evidence.

Do you have evidence on your own conscious experiences?

Yes I do.

But there is nothing to stop an atheist being prejudiced.
Religions however, demand it.  

Study Islam before making rash statements against religion.

So Religions do not have anything to say about sexual preferences? or about how to treat others of different faiths or colours, (I'm looking at you Mormons) or about people with no faiths?

You must admit a lot of religious people point to bits of the dogma in their religion and say that it supports prejudice, or don't you watch the news?

Perhaps, for humans -those somewhat intelligent and social animals inhabiting the planet Earth - "fittest" means those that can best cooperate with each other and survive as a group. You ever think of that?

I cannot think of that because of the presence of Stalin, Mao, and other atheist dictators.

Wow way to go off left field. these are issues that can be addressed and indeed have been ad nauseum but this was not a very valid place to air them.

One person alone is weak, no matter how strong he is compared with other humans... one person alone cannot maintain his sustenance, health, home, family,... gadgets, transportation, thirst for knowledge or recreation for very long.
One person alone is so much less than a community.

True.

I was attacking your ideas about God, which are illogical, and you used the greatness of Islam, especially its growth, as evidence supporting you God idea.

If in your mind God is Illogical then does that mean that all those who believe in God are Illogical people who are much greater in number than you (atheist) are.

Yes. Its true that there are a depressing amount of idiots out there.

Do not undermine the fact that we are interested in knowledge, fiction, necessity, causation, or sensation, so we find ourselves studying about what interests us. Large number of positive views about existence of God in general inform and support philosophical positions on the real objects of philosophical interest.

Its all hot air about nothing.

This argument is a perfect example of Argumentum Ex Culo

You: "If there were a good God, then He would not make a world that could have evil. There is evil in the world; therefore, a good God did not create it."

Me: "How do you define good without God."

You: "I just know what is good and what is not by feeling."

Firstly this argument shows a distinct lack in understanding about the evolution of social animals and the psychology of groups.
Secondly the "god" character in the various texts does not act in a moral way. There is much smiting and shaming and turning people into condiments etc.

Humans are a social animal,

Why humans are social animals?

Hello Yoda.
Live in groups we do.

and have instincts that allow us to work together. These include a sense of right and wrong, the feelings of familial love and brotherhood, and so on.

From where all these instincts came into human?

Evo fucking lution

Your religious texts didn't create moral feelings-- they reflect an ancient (and mostly uneducated) culture's response to those feelings.

You advocate the idea of no God blindly and by overruling all the logical facts in favour of God. For instance, I have argued that without God:

• Universe came out of nothing,
• Life appeared on earth by accident, and
• Intelligence happened by lucky mutation.

And these are shitty points that hold no water.

Universe came from nothing.

1:There probably was something before the current universe there are many ideas as to what these could be some of these even have supporting hints of evidence.
2: There is never any explanation of how god did it in the theistic world it's just " god did it" end of story. It is sufficient explanation only to ill educated morons who will swallow anything that means they still get to believe.

Life appeared on earth by accident

Life appeared on earth probably because of the interplay of chemicals over time. It is fairly likely that in certain circumstances life is inevitable.
I urge you to watch the Wonders of life by Brian Cox who explains how it would have happened in a way that is easy to understand. he  a physics professor so came at from that perspective. 

intelligence happened by lucky mutation

Once evolution started properly it was inevitable. If you look at the history of earth it was only relatively recently that evolution really got going. for most of the time it was cellular division that spread life and the rate of change was low. If some universal manipulator was in charge it would have been kicked off much sooner.

But I digress. We supply all the supporting science and you just say "but god did it" without even proving the existence of your favourite character.

Its kinda sad.

 

In this entire scenario what is the meaning of GOOD and what is the meaning of BAD. Nothingness, accident, and chance do not know GOOD and do not know BAD. Therefore, nonexistence of God confirms that good and bad have no meanings.

You do bang on don't you. Social creatures evolve to live socially.

Dawkins and many other renowned atheists follow this idea:

In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, and other people are going to get lucky; and you won't find any rhyme or reason to it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music.
- Richard Dawkins, Out of Eden, page 133.

Here Dawkins is clearly saying there is no good and no evil. Well if that is the case then there is no point in charging God or religion or anything else with evil because he has abolished the concept. Think of the twin towers, if the people who flew the planes into the twin towers were just dancing to the music of their DNA then nobody would blame them for doing it. In fact, BLAME becomes a NON-CONCEPT. So the whole thing dissolved into a non-moral universe.

The people who crashed into the twin towers were dancing to the music of Islam. They were good little Muslims. At least they thought so.

Harris Wrote: I thought atheists are unprejudiced people. It seems I am mistaken.

Bennyboy Wrote: I seriously doubt you ever thought that.

If you can doubt in the existence of God without whom the existence of everything is an impossibility then who am I in comparison to God.

god is impossible and an invalid premiss.