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Why do you believe in God?
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RE: Why do you believe in God?
(April 25, 2015 at 11:53 pm)ObliviousCat Wrote: What is your evidence or what is your reason for believing what you believe in?

I believe in God for several reasons, most of which are philosophical in nature.  There are a few philosophical arguments for God, but the one I would like to talk about here is the cosmological argument.  In order to talk about this we must first understand the law of causality.  

Basically, the law of causality says that everything that had a beginning has a cause.  This is important because most scientists today will tell you that the universe began some 14 billion years ago.  Not too long ago most scientists would have held the belief that the universe was static and infinite.  Yet they found out what Christians have been saying for years, that the universe had a beginning.  This was not just a creation of matter as most people think of the big bang, but rather the beginning point for matter, space, and time.  Physicist P. C. W. Davies said it this way.

Quote:The coming-into-being of the universe, as discussed in modern science, is not just a matter of imposing some sort of organisation upon a previously incoherent state, but literally the coming into being of all physical things from nothing.
 

So in order for an atheist to stay consistent they must believe that the universe came from nothing, and by nothing, but this doesn't make any sense.  Out of nothing comes nothing.  You cannot have something come from nothing, because out of nothing, comes nothing.  So why does something exist, rather than nothing?  Surely there was some first cause.  This cause must be an uncaused, timeless, spaceless, personal being of unfathomable power.  

But why does this being have to be personal?  Well, the cause must be beyond space and time because space and time did not exist before this being created it.   There are only 2 things that meet this description.  Either and abstract idea like numbers or a personal mind.  But abstract ideas cannot create anything, therefore the being must be personal. 

This is the argument in a nutshell.  I have many other reasons. but this is the one of my favorite. 
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Why do you believe in God? - by ObliviousCat - April 25, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 27, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Alex K - April 27, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 27, 2015 at 1:04 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Alex K - April 27, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Nope - April 30, 2015 at 8:31 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Aoi Magi - April 27, 2015 at 1:26 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 27, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Alex K - April 27, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 27, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Alex K - April 27, 2015 at 3:41 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Chas - May 1, 2015 at 6:55 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Jenny A - April 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Thumpalumpacus - April 30, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by vorlon13 - April 27, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Iroscato - April 27, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - April 30, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - April 30, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - April 30, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - April 30, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 1, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 1, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Chas - May 1, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 1, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 1, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Chas - May 1, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - May 1, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - May 2, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - May 2, 2015 at 11:01 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 11:11 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - May 3, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 3, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Jenny A - May 2, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 3, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Jenny A - May 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Hatshepsut - May 4, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Minimalist - April 30, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Jenny A - April 30, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - April 30, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - April 30, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Pyrrho - May 1, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by professor - April 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Nope - May 1, 2015 at 7:16 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Polaris - April 30, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - May 1, 2015 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - May 2, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Lek - May 2, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Jenny A - May 2, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Hatshepsut - May 2, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by dylandboyer - May 3, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by robvalue - May 3, 2015 at 4:51 am
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Edwardo Piet - May 3, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Why do you believe in God? - by Hatshepsut - May 3, 2015 at 8:37 pm

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