RE: Proof of God
May 3, 2015 at 1:40 am
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2015 at 1:41 am by bennyboy.)
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: You are conferring meaning and value on an otherwise godless and thus meaningless universe.Learn what "begging the question" and "argumentum an nauseam" are and stop doing them. We've given plenty of examples of meaning which are not dependent on fairy tales.
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: It is not possible for the human intellect alone to attain a proper knowledge of the true and the good.We don't need to discover good, only to define it. And so we have, each in our own way. We don't need the opinions of 1500 years-ago desert people to tell us what is right or wrong.
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: There must therefore be something higher than the human intellect by means of which the good can be defined and the truth comprehended so as to leave no doubt.No there mustn't. You keep saying this, but you haven't supported it.
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: If such wrongdoers escape sufferings for their wrongs in this life, it would be fair if there were another world, a hell, where he would be made to suffer.The desire for fairness should not be greater than the desire for honest observation and clear thought. There's no evidence for hell, and no reason to expect that such a thing exists.
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: For Islamic political philosophers, the divine law (sharia) revealed to Prophet Muhammad was a necessary and sufficient condition for bringing about human felicity as these laws are pure and not contaminated by the subjective preferences.Except the preference of men to control women's sexuality and to hide their dirty, dirty faces under towels, you mean? Except the punishment of clear thinking with death, you mean? Yeah, pretty fucking pure and divine.
(May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am)Harris Wrote: For a thinking person these points are sufficient for drawing a conclusion that a person trying to conceal obvious traces of the truth behind chaotic assumptions and empty commentaries that is only to emancipate his immediate self-interested desires.Nope. For a thinking person, fairy tales are fairy tales, real knowledge is inferred from real observations, and never the twain shall meet.