The euthyphro dilemma.

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Theists, what is your response to this Dilemma? Do you chose to take one of the horns, or do you have a solution for getting around the dilemma?

For those who do not know, the euthyphro dilemma was proposed by Plato in one of his socratic dialogs, phrased in a modern and relevant way read as follows:

Is something good simply because God likes it OR is does God like it because it is good?

With this dilemma you have two apparent options:

1) Either something is good because God likes it and therefore morality being the commandments of God is subjective and arbitrary - If God liked rape or torture then rape or torture then rape and torture would be morally good.

2) Moral standards exist apart from God and therefore God is not the giver of morals. This posits the existence of "intrinsic values" as would require that God follows them.

Which option do you chose?

Both statements are wrong, why do you believe you can apply your standards to God? Why did you say assuming God.... in one of your statements to Watson when your two statements imply God. Stop trying to manipulate the answers that are given to this argument. There is no actual dilemma, you stated "two apparent options" I like Watson see another option and it's not an option taken to get around anything except the little trap you are trying to set. This is my view, God is good, it is not who He is, it's what He is. If good was who God is then your statments would apply, since good is what God is the statements do not fit. God is good and His goodness sets the standard for the things that are good and the things that are not good. God's goodness sets the standards for morality, just as God's love sets the standards for morality, His kindness sets the standards for morality and ect. Compare a thing to God's love, goodness, kindness and all the other wonderful things God is and you can determine if that thing is good or not.