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The euthyphro dilemma.
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RE: The euthyphro dilemma.
(September 13, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Watson Wrote: Godschild pretty much has it.

No, he doesn't have shit. He's just said god is Good because god is good.

Quote:What you are saying is that someone's character must be defined by external sources, and that the internal has nothing to do with who we are and what we do.[quote]

No i didn't, go find where i said that.

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This is a presumtuous assertion that leaves no real room for growth as a human being and change of the internal kind. It would suggest that, for one to grow and learn, external forces must be added to the person's current state, which is simply untrue.

Firstly, i didn't assert that at all.

Secondly, this has nothing to do with the dilemma.

Quote:You are an atheist, VOID. This is because of internal decisions and thoughts which you have had, and conclusions which you yourself have drawn. (Unless you'd like to debate that and suggest that you are atheist by virture of someone [/b]else's[/b] thoughts.) From you, your atheism radiates and shows in your actions, your beliefs or lack thereof, and your thought processes. Your atheism is your own, held only by you. No other person in the universe can claim to possess 'theVOID's atheism.'

What the fuck does this have to do with anything?

Quote:Similarly, God possesses goodness and is the definition of good.

Right, so good is whatever god is, and if God is different then the things that we consider good would be different? That's what you are saying no?

Quote: From Him, all good things radiate and show through the universe and the way in which it works.

And if god was different then what we consider to be moral would be different?

You believe god prescribes moral law, do you not? As such anything that God prescribes is moral? So if (hypothetically) God was to prescribe raping infants as a moral action then it would be moral?

Quote: To observe God's goodness, one must observe the world and the way in which it is created. Since God is all-knowing, He internally understands in what ways His goodness must be put to use. Godness is within Him and is His very being. It is not created or instigated by outside sources, because it is from within.

You really don't seem to get the point, stop talking about Good in the general sense and get back to moral good.

Why is something morally good as opposed to morally evil?
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The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 6:31 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by HeyItsZeus - September 13, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 6:42 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 6:45 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Tiberius - September 13, 2010 at 7:05 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Tiberius - September 15, 2010 at 3:18 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Godschild - September 13, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 13, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Godschild - September 14, 2010 at 10:01 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 14, 2010 at 10:10 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Godschild - September 14, 2010 at 10:49 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 14, 2010 at 10:55 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Godschild - September 15, 2010 at 1:46 am
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 11:05 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 13, 2010 at 11:18 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 13, 2010 at 11:13 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 13, 2010 at 11:22 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 14, 2010 at 12:15 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 14, 2010 at 1:37 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Watson - September 14, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Shell B - September 14, 2010 at 6:58 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by The Omnissiunt One - September 14, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Ashendant - September 14, 2010 at 10:43 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by padraic - September 13, 2010 at 11:26 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theophilus - September 14, 2010 at 1:28 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Pippy - September 14, 2010 at 3:37 am
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by mem - September 15, 2010 at 4:33 am
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by padraic - September 15, 2010 at 4:42 am
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 1:05 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by theVOID - September 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Captain Scarlet - September 16, 2010 at 7:31 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by Entropist - September 16, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: The euthyphro dilemma. - by tackattack - September 17, 2010 at 11:06 am

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