RE: A rational explanation for hell?
September 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2010 at 1:46 pm by tackattack.)
@Skipper- Like any father wants their offspring to grow up, learn to be a good persona and live their own life. I don't want my son to be an automoton, but there are choices. I hope he learns to make right choices and is happy in his life. When he's young I don't respect his opinions as much because he doens't know better, but as he gets older and knows better I allow him to suffer the consequences of his actions. That sin and temptation that you're talking about,yes God did create, but you're blaming him for your choice. I'm all about pesonal accountability and when I see a big mac and a salad in front of me, I'm man enough to call myself a pudgie becuase I can't controll myself or make the right decisions and choose the Big Mac. I don't sue McDonalds because I'm fat. As a caveat.. apparently some people I think have tried this and that just shows the degredation of society and lack of Personal Accountability.
@ CaptainS-
Properties of God Propositions 1-5
PG1. Unless the ends justify the means or if there is a perfectly good reason for suffering
PG2. agreed completely
PG3. unless the lack of belief is avoidable in which case that would be denial or delusion and it would be right to punish people denying or delusional about reality that have the fascilities to overcome them
PG4. A merciful being would balance judgement and mercy to not prolong suffering
PG5. see PG1.
On Proposition 2 up top no where in the Bible does it say that your suffering in hell is eternal, that's a Platonic belief not a Biblical one. Proposition 3 up top is also not Biblical in nature.
@ CaptainS-
Properties of God Propositions 1-5
PG1. Unless the ends justify the means or if there is a perfectly good reason for suffering
PG2. agreed completely
PG3. unless the lack of belief is avoidable in which case that would be denial or delusion and it would be right to punish people denying or delusional about reality that have the fascilities to overcome them
PG4. A merciful being would balance judgement and mercy to not prolong suffering
PG5. see PG1.
On Proposition 2 up top no where in the Bible does it say that your suffering in hell is eternal, that's a Platonic belief not a Biblical one. Proposition 3 up top is also not Biblical in nature.
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