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A rational explanation for hell?
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RE: A rational explanation for hell?
@Skipper... no, I've made it expressly clear above and elsewhere that eternal punishment is not righteous for any crime exhibited in a temporary lifespan. It is not a biblical teaching that your punishment is eternal, that's a theory derived from Plato not the Bible. While a lot of people wish itwere true, it's not in line with what the Bible says. I also agree with your statment "I suggest those qualities of control and exploitation via threats of unjust punishment are more easily attributed to men"

edit for your edit: I don't know. I think learning right from wrong and widening your perspective (both philisophically and intellectually) is a process similar to evolution. As we evolve so does our understanding evolve. If I could use a tube and suck out my knowledge and experience and download it to my kid, what meaning would it be to him. Experience is what gives reality it's realness and just like the old addage goes "If you don't learnfrom yoour mistakes, yoou're boun to repeat them". It supposes an inherint experience of failing and growth.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 9:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theophilus - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Zen Badger - September 15, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 19, 2011 at 11:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - September 15, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:37 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 21, 2011 at 4:25 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 9:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 9:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chatpilot - September 15, 2010 at 10:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - September 17, 2010 at 12:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 17, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chasm - September 15, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by HeyItsZeus - September 15, 2010 at 8:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 8:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 5:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by anonymous108 - January 24, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Anymouse - July 20, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 8:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 8:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 4:10 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by solja247 - September 15, 2010 at 8:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 16, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 16, 2010 at 5:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 6:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 9:51 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 17, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 20, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 4:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 5:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 20, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 7:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 20, 2010 at 2:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by leo-rcc - September 20, 2010 at 3:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by leo-rcc - September 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 3:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 4:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chatpilot - September 20, 2010 at 4:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 20, 2010 at 10:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Anomalocaris - September 27, 2010 at 5:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 20, 2011 at 3:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 20, 2011 at 7:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 6:20 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by CharlieMilles - July 21, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 21, 2011 at 2:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 22, 2011 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 25, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 25, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 24, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 25, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 25, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 26, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 26, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 29, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 29, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 27, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 28, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 3:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 3:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 11:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 12:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 12, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 13, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 15, 2011 at 1:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 18, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 4:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 7:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by fr0d0 - August 1, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 1, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 14, 2011 at 11:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 1:16 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 6:24 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 8:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - August 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 15, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 11:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - August 18, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 19, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 9:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 1:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 22, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darkstar - January 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - January 24, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 9:08 am

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