RE: Opinions on my drive to be an atheist
May 18, 2015 at 11:44 pm
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 11:55 pm by Won2blv.)
(May 18, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Nestor Wrote: Nicanica, your notions of right and wrong in truth have absolutely nothing to do with the question of whether a god exists or not. Once you dispel that Chimera, you'll stand a better chance of finding that the decisions you make not only more frequently conform to your best interests but are accompanied by greater sense of clarity and purpose in place of what formerly could only be called unnecessary anguish and confusion.
You're wrong in my situation because if god exists then I believe that he knows whats right and wrong. I want to do the right things. If god doesn't exist, then I'll can just chalk this one up as one of life's hard lessons and learn what I can from it and try to move on
(May 18, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(May 18, 2015 at 4:37 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Can you provide the link for that statement?
The video is in post #49 on this thread.
Although nicanica123 is kind of misinterpreting what Matt is actually saying.
Matt does not say that it is a common factor in deconversion. Only that it is a possible reason, and should not be unappreciated.
Go to about the 3:30 minute mark in the vid, and watch for a couple of minutes.
Then go to the 5:25 mark and he says that the amount of people that become atheist to sin is probably high. I don't understand the controversy anyway. Its not like atheist are a religion with clerics. My original point was that he is a respected person in the community and he seems to think with those statements that being able to "sin" as defined by a religion, is not a bad reason to de-convert.
(May 18, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -except that "conservative lifestyle" which you feel JW principles espouse...appears to have led to an individual such as your brother......Nica....
Can you see why I'm unimpressed? Why I doubt that following these principles is actually helpful?
(you're attracted to women other than your wife, eh? Welcome to the club buddy.)
You keep asserting that I talk about bible principles in a woo type of way. And I know that there is a logical fallacy in your reasoning. For starters, correlation does not equal causation. But look at it this way, if your financial advisor told you to sell a stock that he thinks will drop in value but you don't, do you fire him because he was your financial and you still lost money? No, he is an advisor! The bible principles are a MODEL for us. If you're driving and a sign says, "keep right," well you have the full power to swerve to the left, but it might not end well.
