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Being vs. Believing
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RE: Being vs. Believing
(May 21, 2015 at 8:03 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 26, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Why can't both be goals, and the order of priority dependent on the person.

I see a problem with this if morality is subjective.  We evaluate whether we are good on rules we make ourselves, so both the bar and whether we've met it are set internally.  It's circular.

C. -and this is my favorite- we might be discussing a non-operative variable.  Is the purpose of morality to be reasonable, is logic the proper foundation for morality...

I was speaking of the circularity which results from morality being about aiming for "believing we are good" rather than "being good" in particular.  Sorry I wasn't clear.  If morality is about believing that we are good, and whether we believe we are good depends on a 'good' which is set internally, then we have a situation in which any way of being could come to be seen as good (ala Charles Manson or David Koresh).  If their goal is simply believing that they are good, and good is an internal variable, then they can meet that goal by adjusting the internal variable.  My question then is, how do we arrange things so that people are 'truly' good, instead of just believing themselves to be good?
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Being vs. Believing - by henryp - April 26, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Aoi Magi - April 26, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by polar bear - April 26, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by professor - April 26, 2015 at 11:05 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - April 26, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by henryp - April 26, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Cephus - April 26, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by henryp - April 27, 2015 at 1:21 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 11:11 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Inquisition - May 21, 2015 at 7:25 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 8:03 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - May 21, 2015 at 9:11 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Ben Davis - May 21, 2015 at 8:20 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 9:23 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - May 21, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - May 21, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - May 21, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Being vs. Believing - by Angrboda - May 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by The Grand Nudger - May 21, 2015 at 2:45 pm
RE: Being vs. Believing - by henryp - May 27, 2015 at 12:01 pm

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