(May 21, 2015 at 2:26 pm)Harris Wrote: I did not ask you how good you are in perceiving material stuff with or without the help of science; rather I have asked you to exhibit your most reliable subjective conscious experiences by using scientific methods.
When what I perceive is corroborated by a third party, when it can be analysed and measured and its properties understood, we can say with as much certainty as is possible that what I perceive is, for all practical purposes, the truth. A stone will pass this testing every single time without fail.
(May 21, 2015 at 2:26 pm)Harris Wrote: If you manage to exhibit your immaterial subjective conscious experiences (your qualia) then I assure you that by using your methods I would be able to show you God.
Great - give us something testable and cerifiable and I will convert in a heartbeat.
(May 21, 2015 at 2:26 pm)Harris Wrote: Nevertheless, you are demanding for a perceivable evidence of God without thinking that once God would unveil Himself that would be the end of your Free Will. After observing God if you believe in Him then that belief would be worthless. Your intellect and your freedom have meanings only until God is behind the veil.
The difference between gods and stones is that stones can be demonstrated to exist and have real-world influences whether or not you believe in them. Free will has nothing to do with it - otherwise we would have no holy books or people trying to convert others. You are evidence of this, your assurance that you can show me "God" would violate my free will. So your objection is irrelevant; stop being silly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
