RE: The Historical Reliability of the New Testament
May 24, 2015 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2015 at 8:31 pm by Randy Carson.)
For those who may not be familiar with some of the relationships between the Apostles and the Early Church Fathers, the Apostle John had a disciple named Polycarp who had a disciple named Irenaeus who became bishop of Rome.
In AD 80, Clement of Rome, a disciple of both Peter and Paul who became the fourth pope, wrote the following:
Writing about AD 180, Irenaeus wrote the following:
I'm not that old, and I can name every US President from Obama back to Roosevelt from memory with a few VP's and some dates thrown in for good measure. And I can name a fair number from Washington on...but not in proper order. So, why does this matter?
Clement was a disciple of Paul and the successor of Peter in Rome. Irenaeus was only one "generation" removed from Paul. The Church knew who its leaders were, and both Peter and Paul were martyred in Rome.
In AD 80, Clement of Rome, a disciple of both Peter and Paul who became the fourth pope, wrote the following:
Quote:"Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry" (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4–5, 44:1–3 [A.D. 80]).
Writing about AD 180, Irenaeus wrote the following:
Quote:"The blessed Apostles [plural meaning Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the Church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus. Paul makes mention of this Linus in the Epistle to Timothy. To him succeeded Anencletus; and after him, in the third place from the Apostles, Clement was chosen from the episcopate. He had seen the blessed Apostles and was acquainted with them. It might be said that He still heard the echoes of the preaching of the Apostles, and had their traditions before his eyes. And not only he, for there were many still remaining who had been instructed by the Apostles. In the time of Clement, no small dissension having arisen among the brethren in Corinth, the Church in Rome sent a very strong letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to peace and renewing their faith. To this Clement, Evaristus succeeded; and Alexander succeeded Evaristus. Then, sixth after the Apostles, Sixtus was appointed; after him, Telesphorus, who also was gloriously martyred. Then Hyginus; after him, Pius; and after him, Anicetus. Soter succeeded Anicetus, and now, in the twelfth place after the Apostles, the lot of the episcopate has fallen to Eleutherus. In this order, and by the teaching of the Apostles handed down in the Church, the preaching of the truth has come down to us." (Against Heresies 3.3.3, [A.D. 180])
"Polycarp also was not only instructed by apostles, and conversed with many who had seen Christ, but was also, by apostles in Asia, appointed bishop of the church in Smyrna, whom I also saw in my early youth, for he tarried [on earth] a very long time, and, when a very old man, gloriously and most nobly suffering martyrdom, departed this life, having always taught the things which he had learned from the apostles, and which the Church has handed down, and which alone are true. To these things all the Asiatic churches testify, as do also those men who have succeeded Polycarp down to the present time" (Against Heresies 3:3:4 [A.D. 189]).
"Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth, so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. . . . For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient churches with which the apostles held constant conversation, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question?" (ibid., 3:4:1).
I'm not that old, and I can name every US President from Obama back to Roosevelt from memory with a few VP's and some dates thrown in for good measure. And I can name a fair number from Washington on...but not in proper order. So, why does this matter?
Clement was a disciple of Paul and the successor of Peter in Rome. Irenaeus was only one "generation" removed from Paul. The Church knew who its leaders were, and both Peter and Paul were martyred in Rome.