(September 21, 2010 at 3:07 am)Pippy Wrote: But I think most of what is wrong with Americans is learned (or in this case left unlearned). If you are lied to every moment of your life, how does that effect your concept of reality?
Fox Noise has done much to destroy our grasp of reality. They're not to blame for every bit of distortion but I think they got the ball rolling. Once the far right learned that facts were optional in a debate, they ran with it. Meanwhile, the media started dropping the ball by softening their interviews and allowing right wingers to freely lie on air. It's getting progressively worse over time.
I remember with longing the 80s when it seemed like we spent 20% of debate time on what the facts are and 80% of debate time discussing how to interpret them. For example, was the recovery because of Reaganomics or the oil glut or what?
During the Bush misadministration, we spent 80% of our debate time on what the facts are. "No, there were no links between Iraq and Al Qaida". "No, there were no links between Iraq and Al Qaida." "No. there were no links..."
I thought that was bad but it's gotten even worse. Now, they don't deal with facts at all. Bluster and buzz words will do quite nicely, thank you. I listen to these tea bag candidates and I have no idea what the fuck they're even talking about. Political rhetoric has literally become incoherent.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist