(May 29, 2015 at 9:28 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Although the majority seem to hold to some combination of points 1, 2 & 3, I'm not convinced that any of these reasons adequately answer the question of "Why Be Good" - especially in light of the core element of evolution that the strong dominate the weak, etc.
So, are you going to continue with this overly simplistic strawman, even after I've corrected you on it? I mean, if you want to lie to continue this argument that's fine, but I'd kinda like to hear you say it: "I'd prefer to argue against a position that nobody holds, but is convenient for the conclusion I came to before I even asked my first question and refuse to give up, rather than honestly engaging with a factual representation of evolution and the views of the people speaking to me."
Quote:Clearly, even today, some people do NOT care about others...they do or take what they want with little to no regard for the consequences. Evolution has not eliminated this from these individuals or groups.
Evolution can't "eliminate" anything from individuals, given that it happens over generations; the only way it could eliminate from an individual is before they were born, in which case you'd have nothing to complain about, wouldn't you? Besides, selection pressures don't work the way you seem to think they do; selfishness is an obstacle to existing in human society- obviously, given that the vast majority of people aren't as you describe- but since it isn't completely fatal, it obviously can still linger. Please, do go actually study the mechanisms of evolution before you speak about it, in future.
Also, I need to point out that you're pointing to outliers and then extrapolating out from there to the whole of the group, which is entirely fallacious. It's about as fair as me pointing to Josh Duggar and concluding that therefore christianity is full of child molesters. Every group has outliers and exceptions, but with evolution we at least know why that is, and why it doesn't affect the core. It'd be best if you stopped arguing from a position of ignorance, frankly.
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