(May 29, 2015 at 1:11 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(May 28, 2015 at 11:22 pm)Jenny A Wrote: You're missing the point. Unless he acts or tells you, you would never just know. So? Do you want to know? How the condemnation.What part of "hypothetical" don't you understand? Jesus would know what in the heart without being told right? Pretend you had the same ability. You claim that to "Condemn a man in advance of his actions and you behave immorally yourself", Yet that's exactly what you do when you say you wouldn't trust this person around kids because of his thoughts.
There is no one who can know the mind of a person just by looking at them. I assess morality based upon the here and now and what is and isn't possible. I do not accept your hypothetical because it is impossible.
But suppose it was possible. The outcome is the same. One should help such a man avoid acting on his desires, moral disapproval or punishment simply because he has them is in itself immoral. The question is not what he thinks but how he behaves. Exposing himself to temptation is a behavior.
(May 29, 2015 at 1:11 am)Huggy74 Wrote:Yes, I'm quite serious. The analogy is exact. Looking at children with sexual desire is a disease. Both pedophilia and small pox are diseases likely to endanger children. In both cases we protect the children, and we expect the diseased man, if he is a good man, to aid us in that. In neither case do I consider the person bad or immoral until they have acted in a bad or immoral way. In both cases, willingly spending time with children would be an immoral act.(May 28, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Jenny A Wrote: And is it a sin to have small pox?Seriously? no.
Were speaking in a medical context, sin is used in a spiritual context. A building can be "condemned", doesn't mean it's "sinful".
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.