(June 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Jenny-
Given your beliefs, what I'm about to say next may blow your mind...and you can do whatever you want with it, okay?
There are saints to whom God has revealed things about heaven, hell, and purgatory. The souls in purgatory (and hell) ARE suffering the effects of fire (whether this is literal or figurative is less certain). The joke is that purgatory and hell share the same heating system. Kinda funny...until you think about it.
Anyway, the souls in Purgatory who have been permitted to ask the living saints for prayers, masses, etc., have reported that the separation from God and the regret for lost opportunities in this life are GREATER sources of torment than the actual flames themselves.
And, btw, the souls in hell are also tormented by the fallen angels or demons.
Now, the writings of these saints are available in books. But you have other things to occupy your time, so no need to consider any of this, right?
Blow my mind no. I'm well aware that Catholics believe a variety of extra-Biblical things. That in part was what the Reformation was about. I simply asked if there were biblical authority. You could have just said, no, if that's the answer. And I wouldn't have asked, if you didn't have a thread devoted to attempting to prove god via the bible.
I've no real interest in whether the protestants or the catholics are right about purgatory or limbo, etc. because to me it's a non-question. Until there's some kind of real evidence of god, it a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.