Why be good?

[Randy Carson]

Can you prove your assertion, Mike?

Do you plan on presenting any evidence?

Or is this one of those fiat things that I'm accused of making?

So you're demanding evidence for the supernatural not happening. Seriously?

And you guys question MY reading comprehension?

Dude, Mike wrote, "the gospel authors did not see these events first hand". Now, we can get to the supernatural events in due course, but the thrust of the discussion so far is about whether Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (or alternatively, whoever the actual authors were) were even present during Jesus' lifetime.

So, yeah, Mike as made a positive claim that the authors did not see the events of Jesus' life personally. I'm asking for his arguments and evidence in support of his claim.

A couple of pages before you have been asked, why you don't consider Zeus, Odin and all the other gods and their stories as equally credible. Not a good enough question in your opinion?

Not good enough for Ehrman. Not good enough for O'Neill. Not good enough for the majority of NT scholars who admit that Jesus was a real person. So, I'll go with that. But if you are REALLY interested, there are lots of websites written by people who have taken the time to refute this freshman-level argument.

I was asking you for a list of your countless famous atheists turning to deism and theism after having studied the bible. Not a good enough question either, I assume.

have you ever heard of Google? I found 18 atheists who converted to Catholicism on this page in less than one minute: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_con...atholicism

If we consider all of Christianity and theism/deism, the number goes up dramatically.

You went around questioning our credibility without presenting even one shred of your own besides claiming to be a catholic. So why are you asking for a polite conversation? And more importantly, why has anything you have to say even a shred of credibility. All you offered is your believe in the gospels and their authors. And that, to put it bluntly and as polite as possible, doesn't amount to much.

Look for the thread entitled, "The Historical Reliability of the New Testament". Start with post #1. Read slowly and carefully to the end.

Then let's chat, okay?

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Adam and Eve were the only people on the planet at the time.

Then who did Cain fuck?

His wife.