(June 8, 2015 at 2:53 pm)abaris Wrote:(June 8, 2015 at 2:09 pm)SteveII Wrote: Some atheist think that Christianity is utterly absurd. If someone starts from a position of naturalism and materialism or was hurt by someone who claimed to be religious, and looks no further than a cursory glance at and what other atheist say about Christianity, that person will have a vastly different perspective than someone who is significantly more familiar with the 1000 different components of Christianity and how they work together into a coherent worldview.
I'm perfectly aware that challenging a christian is a fruitless endeavor in most cases. And I'm not out to do that unless they come bible thumping into my hangout. I'm not interested in what they're selling, since my conviction that christianity is utterly absurd is firm. So I'm rather surprised that you christians seem to believe that doing mission work on an atheist board might be successful.
This thread isn't the place for that kind of discussion, but let's just say, I can't take anyone seriously who denies evolution and all the scientific knowledge we have about the universe. I quoted the above mainly for the being hurt by religious person part. That's utterly absurd. I never was and I daresay, most of us here, would say the same. It's just that what I learned at school didn't add up with the claims of religion. Occasionally I'm disgusted by religious persons. When they try to force their bigotry on the world at large, when they resort to violence or condemn people for their way of living. And, as I said in another thread, this isn't in any way discriminatory. I despise radical jews, christians and muslims just the same. But it's not my business if anyone wants to go to church and listen to the preachers. Just keep it in church and not in the general public.
I have no illusions of converting anyone from this forum. I browse from time to time to stretch my argumentation abilities (and to watch others do the same).
I am also disgusted by people who claim some religious reason for doing what is otherwise wrong. These are people making bad decisions and it often reflects poorly on God and/or Christianity.
I know of no Christians who ignore scientific evidence. I know plenty who beleive or don't beleive in specific theories--all across the spectrum. But, since Genesis is not a science book, there is a wide latitude for various beliefs and still be a Christian. If you run across someone who has strong feelings about a particular theory, it is an individual belief, not a cornerstone of Christianity.
Regarding social issues, like homosexuality, there is a range of beliefs about that as well (and that would certainly be beyond this thread).