RE: Why be good?
June 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2015 at 9:32 pm by Jenny A.)
(June 10, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 7:32 pm)abaris Wrote: Randy, notice that you did nothing else than repeat your theologian justifications without any regards of history - real history, not legends. And Cahtolic mean nothing else than "whole", so the whole church as understood when they came to power, which was in the late 4th century.
You also didn't in any way adress that there wasn't a "whole" church before that time, but everyone went on their merry ways according to their understanding. We're talking about the church of Rome when we're talking about Catholics, since everything else is legend at it's purest and not in any way supported by historical facts.
Did you notice that Ignatius uses the phrase "catholic church" without introducing it in the year AD 107?
You did notice that what little we know of Ignatious is his own writings addressing heresy? If it was all one big happy united church, who were these heretics? Ignatious, is not proof of a united church, rather the reverse, he's proof there were Christians who believed rather differently, including in particular the Gnostics and the Docetists.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.