(June 10, 2015 at 6:30 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:(June 10, 2015 at 12:37 pm)Britney blue Wrote: I use none, and I did say "creative weapons of reason and logic", Christianity in the bible seem to violate logic and morality, and I am very interested in why Christians don't understand this.
Maybe because we've read it and understood it properly?
(June 10, 2015 at 12:39 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: A correction. Evolution is a fact and the ToE is the method to which we try and explain the fact (and do a good job of it too). It's as established as magnetism and gravity, and believing it to be false with no real evidenced reason why doesn't stop it being factual.
Then why is it known as the Theory of Evolution and not the Law of Evolution?
I've never heard of the "theory of gravity"...but the Law of Gravity I know.
(June 10, 2015 at 12:51 pm)LastPoet Wrote: There is something that I feel since my third year here on this forum. The idiots have no bounds defending magic and fairytales. It is indeed dismaying as they are always ready to shred any intellectual honesty just to save their vaunted belief.
Knucles in their faces won't work either, as they are so full of themselves, it would probably fuel their delusion. Bah, I live my life with fairness without god, I want people to live and let live. It is the religious anthem to proclaim theirs is the only way to live. This is why I have to keep pushing their bullshit back up their asses. If it wasn't for that, I'd have little interest in this forum.
Christians lie.
Christians are intellectually dishonest.
Christians are prideful.
Christians are deluded.
Man, it sure is refreshing to see how wonderfully developed the atheist sense of living in harmony with and caring for others really is. Gotta love that societal evolution.
(June 10, 2015 at 1:25 pm)robvalue Wrote: Making religion look stupid is not the aim of the theory of evolution. It just happens to be a side effect.
Like all scientific theories, it models reality. It's not science's fault if reality does not correlate to dusty old books written by people with very little understanding of the world around them. It's not surprising at all, really. We've had 2000 years of learning since then.
How so, rob?
What if God created all things and used evolution to get us to this point?
(June 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm)Esquilax Wrote: If it affects the real world, it can be tested. If it doesn't affect the real world, it isn't your god.
Your petulant affectation that you somehow have some authority to decide what science can and cannot test is utterly meaningless.
What you actually mean is the real "material" world.
You have no way of testing the real "immaterial", do you?
"Maybe because we've read it and understood it properly?" Then your either delusional or dishonest.