RE: Stump the Christian?
June 11, 2015 at 7:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2015 at 7:18 pm by Randy Carson.)
(June 11, 2015 at 5:36 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:(June 11, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: But one question: What is your evidence for your claim that God began?
What is your evidence the universe did?
I'm no expert, but the following information is easily found with Google:
The Second Law of Thermodynamics suggests that the universe is running out of energy and that a universe which had no beginning would have run out of energy already.
Additionally, three leading cosmologists, Arvind Borde, Alan Guth and Alexander Vilenkin, have proved that any universe which has, on average, been expanding throughout its history, cannot be eternal in the past but must have an absolute beginning. This also applies to multiverses – if there is such a thing. Vilenkin said,
“This means that scientists “can no longer hide behind a past eternal-universe. There is no escape; they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.”
(June 11, 2015 at 6:23 pm)Jenny A Wrote:(June 11, 2015 at 6:09 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: And it is your contention that Christians are pretending to have answers that they do not really have. Is it possible that they have a few to those questions that science will never answer?
Pretending may be too strong a word. But yes, Christians claim to have answers, such as god exists, that they have no real evidence for. They claim knowledge that they have not. That they really believe such claims, does not make them correct.
Jenny-
If you had met God, would you think differently?
(June 11, 2015 at 6:59 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 11, 2015 at 5:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Oh, good.
You've done this before.
That means the two of you should be able to provide really clear, concise refutations.
Please do.
We've done them all before, Randy. You have, literally, brought nothing new to the table here.
I did not expect to. I wanted to see the reaction.
I'm here to learn how atheists think an what your arguments and objections are.