RE: Stump the Christian?
June 11, 2015 at 8:21 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2015 at 8:24 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 11, 2015 at 7:26 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm familiar with the "god-of-the-gaps" objection, and since you guys have "done it all before", I'm sure you're equally familiar with the "science-of-the-gaps" fallacy.
Interestingly, though, just a few posts earlier, JennyA. opined that there are questions which science will never answer.
But that doesn't seem to stop some from assuming that or behaving as if it will eventually.
They've simply placed their faith in a different god.
Bloody hell, you are pretty clueless.
Scientists are one of the most humble groups there are. If you ever attended a science conference, you would constantly hear the scientists using language like the following, "I am sure there are people in the audience that know more about subject X than me, so please jump in with corrections as needed", or, "it seems that our studies and evidence pointing to X being tentatively correct, but please, run your own studies and prove us wrong", or "based on our previous evidence, we thought X was correct, but further studies by [list of scientists] have proved us wrong".
There is never any claims of absolute certainty. All conclusions in science are considered tentative and provisional, and will be modified or dropped if new evidence is found.
Where is the faith?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.