Stump the Christian?

[Longhorn]

I'm sorry you feel that way. My responses were an honest attempt to address each of your points.

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For example, when did I claim the part highlighted above?

The argument does not imply that because some things in the universe have a cause, therefore the whole universe must have a cause.

As for Abaris, well, yes...if a tu quoque CAN be employed, then there is no special pleading. And yes, there is science-of-the-gaps reasoning because all the atheist has to do is to say, "Well, if we wait a thousand years or so, I'm sure science will have found the answer."

No they don't. All they have to do is say 'I don't know'. That's it. Special pleading refers to god being immune to infinite regress, and god of the gaps to the fact that we don't know what was 'before', they are not mutually exclusive.

But until science finds a way to measure the timeless, spaceless, and immaterial, science simply cannot speak about God other than to say, "Dunno."

Measure the immaterial? The immaterial is immeasurable, that's why there's no proof anything immaterial exists. And science can say a lot more about god, namely that it is an unfalsifiable claim and therefore garbage. You could make hundreds of such claims, all exactly as valid as god.

Finally, as one website is honest enough to admit, the KCA is "sophisticated, extensive" and "the most rigourous argument for theism that has ever been presented." And that was an ATHEIST website. The author goes on to take his shot at debunking the KCA, but lots of people have tried their hand at that and failed.

Link please. And who said atheists can't be full of shit?

Needless to say, I've not read anything in this forum to date that convinces me that anyone here is any closer to accomplishing the feat.

Could it be because you're ignoring everything that is being said?