RE: Stump the Christian?
June 12, 2015 at 5:58 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2015 at 6:50 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 12, 2015 at 2:54 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Finally, as one website is honest enough to admit, the KCA is "sophisticated, extensive" and "the most rigourous argument for theism that has ever been presented." And that was an ATHEIST website. The author goes on to take his shot at debunking the KCA, but lots of people have tried their hand at that and failed.
Needless to say, I've not read anything in this forum to date that convinces me that anyone here is any closer to accomplishing the feat.
The author you mention is an atheist philosopher named Michael Martin.
The thing is, the majority of philosopher disagree with Martin.
For example, Jeffrey Allen, Robert Greg Cavin, Peter Boghosian, and Nelson Pike. All Ph.D philosophers with comparable credentials as Michael Martin.
Jeffrey Allen wrote a pretty thorough refutation of Craig's version of KCA called, A Bug in William Lane Craig's KCA" in 2009.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.