RE: Stump the Christian?
June 12, 2015 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2015 at 6:19 pm by Simon Moon.)
(June 12, 2015 at 10:53 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The real question is: are YOU as an atheist willing to set aside YOUR presuppositions and consider the possibility that a god exists?
How did I miss this?
Another straw man.
This is not the position of the vast majority of atheists.
I do not have a presupposition that a god does not exist. I DISBELIEVE a god exists due to the lack of demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and sound/valid logic to support the claim.
My atheism is purely a provisional position, and can be changed given the above criteria.
I get the idea that can not grasp that our atheism is an outgrowth of skepticism. It is not dogmatic or a presupposition. It is simply the natural position to take when a claim does not meet its burden of proof.
Let me ask you this, without sufficient demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid/sound logic to support the existence of a god, what should be my justification to believe one exists?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.