(June 14, 2015 at 10:05 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Hitler visited the Weimar Nietzsche because he had read Nietzsche and admired him. The Aryan race was a twisted version of Nietzsche's "superman".
Are you, perhaps, aware of the guilt by association fallacy?
Quote: Hitler understood with chilling clarity the moral implications of a Nietzschean world without God. Once he had attained power, he created the concentration camps to implement the Darwinian law of nature that would bring about the elimination of the unfit and the creation of a civilization that was fit for the master race.
Okay, so, you've had it explained to you what "Darwinian" laws of nature actually mean and imply for human beings, what "fittest" means for our particular niche, so continuing with this blatant strawman now is completely dishonest, and since you reference the "why be good?" thread here you can't just pin it on a slip of memory either.
As for Nietzche, I don't particularly find the implication that a world without god abandons moral precepts; merely the ones associated with god, for their own sake. Aside from your fiat assertion and utterly baseless dismissals of any attempt to explain to you how one could construct an objective standard of morality sans god, you have produced no argument at all that this godless world is in any way "chilling." Simply going "nuh uh!" as you have all throughout the "why be good?" thread is a debate tactic worthy of a five year old, and it's absolutely stunning that you came away from that thinking that you'd made some form of valid point.
Quote:So, yeah, Hitler's "final solution" was all about doing "what was best for his people without regard to other populations." and the connection is obvious.
Second strawman: the people in your group can be every person in the world. In fact, as our globalized world testifies, that may be the best outcome.
Quote:But noooo...according to the stuff I'm told in the "Why Be Good?" thread, atheism (and the death of God) has nothing to do with this whatsoever.
And baseless sarcasm backed by strawmen isn't an answer to that.

Quote:I guess Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot (to name a few) just weren't as evolved as the rest of you.
They were wrong. Catastrophically so, but there's nothing in evolutionary theory, even in the bastardized, misrepresented strawman of it that you dishonestly cling to, that precludes being wrong on issues.
But hey, why not keep crowing about dictators rather than addressing the positions of the people actually in front of you, right? After all, all atheists are one monolithic bloc with a hive mind, we can't possibly have different views, yeah?

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