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My Inquiry
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(June 17, 2015 at 3:13 am)onmytablet512 Wrote: Hello all! I was scrolling through the Internet tonight and I got on the topic of the existence of God, and ended up stumbling across this site. I'm currently looking for any evidence I can find that God does/does not exist (I'm a Christian), so it would be awesome if you guys would post your best rebuttals against the existence of God here for me to look at. I realize that sometimes I only see one side of an argument so I would like to put this out to you guys so I can see this argument over the existence of God from both sides. Thanks!

There are the standard arguments that you can read, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God

You will want to click on various links for more in-depth analysis of the various arguments.  Philosophers generally regard all of the arguments for the existence of god as being fallacious.


You might also want to take a look at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicit_a...it_atheism

There are different kinds of atheists; those who do not believe in a god ("weak atheism") and those who believe that there is no god ("strong atheism"); see link immediately preceding this sentence.


You might also be interested in:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ignosticism

And:

(May 24, 2015 at 10:18 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:
(May 24, 2015 at 10:09 pm)whateverist Wrote: ...

It would be nice if any evidence/argument for believing in gods could be preceded by an adequate god definition.

It would be nice if people were reasonable, but that, too, is just a fantasy.  You are not likely to get more than gibberish for a "god" definition, and if you do, you will find them retreating from it, erasing it into nothingness.  This idea has been discussed by Antony Flew:

Let us begin with a parable. It is a parable developed from a tale told by John Wisdom in his haunting and revolutionary article "Gods." Once upon a time two explorers came upon a clearing in the jungle. In the clearing were growing many flowers and many weeds. One explorer says, "Some gardener must tend this plot." The other disagrees, "There is no gardener." So they pitch their tents and set a watch. No gardener is ever seen. "But perhaps he is an invisible gardener." So they set up a barbed-wire fence. They electrify it. They patrol with bloodhounds. (For they remember how H. G. Well's The Invisible Man could be both smelt and touched though he could not be seen.) But no shrieks ever suggest that some intruder has received a shock. No movements of the wire ever betray an invisible climber. The bloodhounds never give cry. Yet still the Believer is not convinced. "But there is a gardener, invisible, intangible, insensible, to electric shocks, a gardener who has no scent and makes no sound, a gardener who comes secretly to look after the garden which he loves." At last the Sceptic despairs, "But what remains of your original assertion? Just how does what you call an invisible, intangible, eternally elusive gardener differ from an imaginary gardener or even from no gardener at all?"

...

http://www.svsu.edu/~koperski/flew.htm

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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My Inquiry - by onmytablet512 - June 17, 2015 at 3:13 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 17, 2015 at 3:21 am
RE: My Inquiry - by onmytablet512 - June 17, 2015 at 3:25 am
RE: My Inquiry - by abaris - June 17, 2015 at 7:07 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Mister Agenda - June 19, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 17, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Cyberman - June 17, 2015 at 3:28 am
RE: My Inquiry - by onmytablet512 - June 17, 2015 at 3:33 am
RE: My Inquiry - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: My Inquiry - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 17, 2015 at 3:45 am
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RE: My Inquiry - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2015 at 7:52 am
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RE: My Inquiry - by Whateverist - June 17, 2015 at 9:33 am
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RE: My Inquiry - by onmytablet512 - June 17, 2015 at 11:44 am
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RE: My Inquiry - by FatAndFaithless - June 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm
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