My Inquiry

[Pyrrho]

Mmmmm. All these logical fallacies make my head hurt.

So I see we've landed on the subject of the teleological argument, which evidently I used. I'm looking into the fallacies of it and I can't find any notable examples of them. I ran across this website, and the main point that it makes is that the world is not perfect because of all the suffering that goes on. In truth, the world was made perfectly until man corrupted it. Man is not perfect because God gave him free will, etc. Can you guys give me any other links to different arguments?

The "free will" defense for the problem of evil is ridiculous.  When people ask, why is there evil in the world?, many times, theists say it is because of free will (never mind the fact that free will does not explain earthquakes, diseases, etc., etc., etc.).  If free will causes evil, then either there is evil in heaven, or there is no free will in heaven.  If people have free will in heaven and there is no evil in heaven, then having free will does not explain evil here and now.  Basically, a lot of Christians have inconsistent gibberish that they believe, or they would not say the idiotic things they say.

So, why is there evil in the world, if there is a god who is omnipotent, omniscient, and perfectly benevolent?  Or do you deny that there is such a god, that god is really not accurately described that way?

If God is omniscient, he would have known how things would have gone.  In fact, the Bible story actually requires man to "go bad."

1) What the hell is God except something defined to fit a role in a gap of knowledge?

2) Why should I care if there is/was one?

1) God is the creator of the Universe. True, there is no concrete, visible proof of this, but it's the belief that I follow.

So you admit that you are believing things for no good reason.  That is a problem.  Why don't you believe that there is an invisible dragon under your bed?  Or do you?  After all, you have no good reason to believe that, either.

My God is also a loving, amazing God who bestows mercy and grace upon his children.

That is a steaming pile of shit.  Do you believe in hell?  If so, you believe in an evil torturer god.  Also, even without hell, god presently does not stop children from dying of hunger and thirst, does not stop them from burning alive in house fires, etc.  Yet if god were omnipotent, god could effortlessly stop all of those things from ever happening.  That is a cold, evil brute you are worshipping.

2) That brings Jesus into the equation. Jesus died for our sins on a cross, allowing us to make it into a Heaven and spend eternity with him.

That is a silly story.  Why would a good god require someone to suffer and die, instead of just forgiving them?  Is your god incapable of simple forgiveness?  Does your god require pain and suffering?  Is your god displeased if there is no pain and suffering, so he must create it to be happy?

Really, you worship a totally evil bastard.  (Of course, a non-existent totally evil bastard, but a totally evil bastard none the less.)