RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 17, 2015 at 7:29 pm
(This post was last modified: June 17, 2015 at 7:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 17, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:-and yet, you don't think that Adam and Steve should be married. I'm not interested in arguing that with you, people are free to have opinions, I don't have to agree with your opinion to enjoy your conversation or your company. The thing that interests me, is that we can follow (just in our conversation, but certainly in other aspects of life) your gut and my gut consider the same thing, coming to the same conclusions over the same reasons....and both of us agree that everything going into that was good....(June 17, 2015 at 2:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If Adam and Steve are married, then you see no reason (no, non-god based reason, of course) to call their relationship immoral, or inadvisable, right?
Probably not, so to answer you, right.
I wouldn't have the same understanding of sexuality if I did not have any sort of belief in God or a higher being of any sort.
...and then this "god" business interrupts.
I just don't see why the author of righteousness would be such a disruption, such a departure...particularly if he wrote this morality into our hearts, as the saying goes and as you believe. When you do a 180 from your gut and everything that came before.....and then say "because god"......well, I'm sorry if I can't help but mention that you seem like a much nicer, much more thoughtful (and well justified) person than that guy (yes, even nicer than jesus). I don't know how this god stuff could help you to understand -why- something is good or bad...if his understanding is a 180 from your own before the conversation can even begin?
It's like saying that someone helped you to understood -why- blue was...except that everytime you called something blue they told you that it was orange. How is that even -supposed- to work>? The only thing this god seems to help you to understand....is that you're wrong.......? Just you and me...and Adam and Steve in the world...and we'd both officiate at the wedding..right? If we add just one more being, god......it suddenly becomes "a bad thing". It ever occur to you how strange this situation is?
(jesus christ,.....your thread got shittified hard since I was last on, that residual hostility business I mentioned at the beginning...there you go, now you know why)
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