What IS good, and how do we determine it?

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I agree...
The trouble is, in those places where that notion is being actively pushed onto the young people, you find that they end up pregnant more than elsewhere.
So, clearly, as correct as the premise may sound, on paper, it is not applicable to the population at large.

That's something that an institution that claims to somehow be in contact with the supreme being should have gotten right, straight off the bat... instead, it goes on pushing a notion that is doomed to fail... a notion that is statistically shown to fail.

The Church doesn't "push" any of the sort on the people above. It merely teaches that what it does. If you follow the teaching, you will not get pregnant, if you don't, you are fair game lol.

The church, or whatever passes as the church in those areas, is then neglecting its clear leadership role... unless...