(June 19, 2015 at 6:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:Wasn't it you who defined "holiness" as "likeness to god"?(June 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The fact that the church leaders continue to bang on the same key only tells us that they are clearly not getting any directions from any god interested in the most happiness for the most people.... and they never have, based on the fact that this is the same rule from 2000 years ago.
You are correct, pocaracas, and props for seeing it.
1. The Church is NOT going to cave on contraception - unlike all of Protestant denominations beginning with the Anglicans in 1930. The Catholic Church is THE Church that Jesus promised to build (cf. Mt 16:18-19), and she does not cave in to the pressure of popular opinion. That should be something that you can respect if you stop and think about it long enough.
2. The leaders of the Church are not interested in the "most happiness for the most people" and they never have been. They are interested in the most HOLINESS for the most people, and that is a VERY different thing.
So.... you're more like god if you have sex with just the wife? weird...
But god... well, Yahweh... did have a consort... not exactly a wife.... ohh... that's before... that's not in the christian, nor jewish, canon.