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Anarchist idiots
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RE: Anarchist idiots
(June 23, 2015 at 1:27 pm)TaraJo Wrote:
(June 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I don't disagree but I think people view any ideology that doesn't fit their idea of right as childish and naive.

In this case, I think it actually is childish and naive.  Every discussion I've had with this flavor of anarchist always seems to go the same way:  They point out grievances with the government (and they're usually legitimate grievances).  However, instead of attempting to reform the government to account for those problems, they recommend abandoning the government altogether.  If that isn't throwing the baby out with the bath water, I don't know what is.

The eternal debate between reform and revolution will never end - Sometimes a revolution is just a better alternative than mere reformism. The French overthrew the government and planted a new regime (liberalism); the Germans used reform - Reform is good because it provides stability, continuance and preserves some valuable traditions, but when an institution is so corrupt the only choice may be to overthrow it with violence (if necessary) - I'm not saying this is the case for the State, but it seems to be what anarchists think. I don't spend a lot of time on social networks so I may be a little oblivious to what people think/argue.There is a difference between arguing with an anarchist who simply thinks it's cool to be rebellious and someone who has actually read literature and has a deep understanding of politics and a decent proposal for the future. There are cases in history when anarchy worked for some time - I'm thinking Catalunha in Spain.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by FatAndFaithless - June 23, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Whateverist - June 23, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TheRealJoeFish - June 23, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Nope - June 23, 2015 at 12:51 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by vorlon13 - June 23, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Minimalist - June 23, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 23, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - June 23, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - June 23, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by downbeatplumb - June 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Whateverist - June 23, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Minimalist - June 23, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by abaris - June 23, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by FatAndFaithless - June 23, 2015 at 1:55 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 23, 2015 at 1:57 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 23, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - June 23, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by abaris - June 23, 2015 at 5:14 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 8:13 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 9:34 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by abaris - June 24, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by ignoramus - June 23, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Pyrrho - June 23, 2015 at 10:08 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by CapnAwesome - June 23, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by TaraJo - June 23, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by CapnAwesome - June 24, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - June 24, 2015 at 4:14 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by CapnAwesome - June 26, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Jackalope - June 24, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Fidel_Castronaut - June 24, 2015 at 4:13 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by jesus_wept - June 24, 2015 at 5:10 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by abaris - June 24, 2015 at 6:14 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Nope - June 24, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by abaris - June 24, 2015 at 8:43 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Nope - June 24, 2015 at 9:10 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by jesus_wept - June 24, 2015 at 12:39 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by das_atheist - June 24, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by nihilistcat - June 25, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Dystopia - June 24, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by nihilistcat - June 25, 2015 at 9:43 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Aristocatt - June 26, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - June 26, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Aristocatt - June 26, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Mister Agenda - June 26, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by nihilistcat - June 27, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Cato - July 1, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by nihilistcat - June 27, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Napoléon - July 1, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by CapnAwesome - July 1, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Anarchist idiots - by JuliaL - July 1, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by Cato - July 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Anarchist idiots - by nihilistcat - July 1, 2015 at 10:52 pm

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