Why are we here?

[Godscreated]

No one has to stumble into eternal torment, God made an easy, simple way to walk away from that fate through His Son.  You want t work with an assumption that God wouldn't have anything to work with but His desire, God answers this question in the NT by saying He desires no one to enter eternal punishment.

That's my point: if god wants everyone to be saved, then we're better off having him decide our fates.  Otherwise we are at risk, regardless of how "easy" it is to be saved using his son's sacrifice.  After all, how easy it is depends on who you ask, and many denominations have different rules regarding how we can be saved.  Why risk it?  Think about it: when it comes to making the best decision on anything, who would you trust: yourself, or god?

Or put another way: if god made that decision, everyone would be saved.  But because he does not, billions of people will not be saved.  Which is the better outcome?

What if everyone doesn't want to be saved, this forum is full of that type of people. Is it fair to them for God to drag them into heaven kicking and screaming, He would be putting them in an eternal punishment by doing so, He has a place reserved for those who do not want to be with Him. God's haven will be a place of eternal happiness, with people who do not want to be there it wouldn't be the place He promises.

Being saved can't be God's choice, his desire yes, being saved must be a commitment of a persons heart. Parents may have wanted their child to be something the child's heart wasn't into, so the child became what it desired, if the child had gone the way the parents desired the child wouldn't have been happy. So why should God force someone into salvation if that person doesn't want it. The question you should ask the atheist here, do they want God to save them so they can spend eternity with Him, hopefully they will be honest.

GC