(June 29, 2015 at 11:51 am)SteveII Wrote:(June 29, 2015 at 10:43 am)Tonus Wrote: That doesn't sound like punishment to me.It depends on what the consequences of a total separation from God might be to one's soul.
I think it would have more meaning if there was a consensus on what hell is, and what separation from god means, and so on. The explanations for hell have gone from a fairly straightforward idea (you burn in torment as if suffering from extreme physical pain) to something ambiguous. Where does my soul end up if I go to hell? Is it a literal place, like heaven? What form does my suffering take? What activities are possible?
I ignore any and all gods until one should happen to show up. Am I separated from god now? Because if my life is hell, then it's not a very unpleasant place at all. What is it about hell that would make me turn to god in desperate terror if I ever understood what it was?
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