RE: Living Biblically
June 29, 2015 at 4:25 pm
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2015 at 4:30 pm by SteveII.)
(June 29, 2015 at 3:46 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Since it is in effect "Till heaven and earth pass," we can be pretty sure it is still in effect. Of course, I expect you to pretend that Jesus meant nothing by those words, that it is just extra verbiage to be ignored. That is the way of most Christians, to ignore bits they don't like and pretend that things mean something other than what they plainly say. Great job trying to weasel out of it so quickly! I knew it would not be long for someone to do that, and you have not disappointed.
So, it is your opinion that looking for context across all of Jesus' teaching and actions and Paul's teachings to help understand a 2 sentence teaching is somehow wrong or disingenuous?
You also have to delineate between the different laws. You have the basic commandments and the ancillary moral laws, you have the ceremonial laws, and you have the judicial laws set up for a theocracy. Which one was he talking about?
Christ's purpose was to fulfill the law, --provide the final sacrifice that satisfied the requirement for atonement. The law still serves the purpose for which it was created: to show that we fall short. If you take it the way you want to, then Jesus' life and atonement does not make sense--sacrifices are still necessary. Paul has a whole bunch of versus that clarify--but perhaps you will claim they are contradictory--which is nonsense--since doctrine is developed by incorporating all we know on 1) the subject matter from all recognized authorities, 2) harmonizing it with the nature of God and the obvious plan of redemption, and 3) harmonizing it with other doctrines that affect it. It is not done lightly and we now have 2000 years of thinking on the various subjects. There is an answer to ever objection you can think of. You might even get more that one variation to choose from depending on xyz interpretation on a given subject.