(June 17, 2015 at 7:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
- No miracles can occur in the nature of things.
- #1 logically follows because, of course, under fundamental atheist presuppositions, there is no God to perform any miracle.
- The New Testament documents are fundamentally untrustworthy and historically suspect, having been written by gullible, partisan Christians; particularly because, for most facts presented therein, there is not (leaving aside archaeological evidences) written secular corroborating evidence.
- Some atheists even claim (or suspect) that Jesus didn't exist at all (making such a topic even more absurd and ludicrous (given that premise) than it already is in atheist eyes).
1. Theists love sentences full of undefined words/phrases. What is a miracle? What the hell is "the nature of things"?
2. FFS, nearly 1200 posts and you cannot grasp the simple concept of a lack of belief.
3. All historical documents should be treated with skepticism. I know little about the topic, but my partner has a degree in Archaeology and would disagree about any supporting archaeological evidence for magical NT events.
4. I'm not sure that is a premise of any Atheist. I for one neither believe the claim that Jesus did exist, nor the claim that he did not. Suspecting something isn't a presupposition.
You're supposed to have the most powerful force in the universe on your side, something you claim exists everywhere, controls everything and created every single thing, yet you need to go back to 2000yr old documents to provide any evidence for it's existence. It's absurd.