(July 11, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(July 11, 2015 at 9:31 pm)Esquilax Wrote: It's simple, so I understand why you wouldn't get it: if we see that god exists, that alone is not a reason to accept him as our lord and superior.You've gotten one thing right...it IS simple. A being who created the universe out of nothing and to who you owe your whole existence, IS reason alone to accept him as your "lord and superior" (the two are synonymous). Add to that, the fact that he was willing to take on human form and suffer horribly, so that he could adopt you as a son and sit with him in his throne, is even more reason to accept him as your (lord and superior).
Are you saying that you never considered your parents as your superior? How are they somehow more worthy of being your superior than God?
You've got one thing wrong. The god of the bible did not create the universe. For over 500 years the church has known that the biblical creation story bears not the slightest resemblance to the universe we live in. If the true creator stepped into our world in a tangible way, he would not be the god of the bible and he might not even want to be worshipped.
As for what the bible claims he suffered, after the way god set Adam up, that's like a doctor who gives you something to make you sick then expects you to be grateful when he makes you well.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.