RE: Drug Policy
July 13, 2015 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2015 at 8:25 am by Dystopia.)
(July 13, 2015 at 8:16 am)Napoléon Wrote:I think you may be misunderstanding my point - I never said drug use should be criminalized, or that drug users should me marginalized, I simply said that I don't agree with the government directly selling drugs to people, at least because of how much it costs to produce heavier drugs. You are arguing with me as if I was against decriminalization, which I'm not - BTW, Portugal simply decriminalized, a measure I support, we didn't legalize selling it to the public. What makes you think being against direct selling means I support criminalization and prohibition?(July 13, 2015 at 8:05 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Isn't Portugal doing the experiment of decriminalization? How's it working for them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
Thorough studies on how the various efforts have been implemented were not conducted. Thus, a causal effect between strategy efforts and these developments cannot be firmly established.[11] There are, however, statistical indicators that suggest the following correlations between the drug strategy and the following developments, from July 2001 up to 2007:
- Increased uptake of treatment.[11]
- Reduction in new HIV diagnoses amongst drug users by 17%[17]
- Reduction in drug related deaths, although this reduction has decreased in later years. The number of drug related deaths is now almost on the same level as before the Drug strategy was implemented.[11][17] However, this may be accounted for by improvement in measurement practices, which includes a doubling of toxicological autopsies now being performed, meaning that more drugs related deaths are likely to be recorded.[18]
- Reported lifetime use of "all illicit drugs" increased from 7.8% to 12%, lifetime use of cannabis increased from 7.6% to 11.7%, cocaine use more than doubled, from 0.9% to 1.9%, ecstasy nearly doubled from 0.7% to 1.3%, and heroin increased from 0.7% to 1.1%[17] It has been proposed that this effect may have been related to the candor of interviewees, who may have been inclined to answer more truthfully due to a reduction in the stigma associated with drug use.[18] However, during the same period, the use of heroin and cannabis also increased in Spain and Italy, where drugs for personal use was decriminalised many years earlier than in Portugal [18][19] while the use of Cannabis and heroin decreased in the rest of Western Europe.[20][21]
- Drug use among adolescents (13-15 yrs) and "problematic" users declined.[18]
- Drug-related criminal justice workloads decreased.[18]
- Decreased street value of most illicit drugs, some significantly.[18]
The only questions I asked was how we would provide, sell and regulate the market if the government directly produced drugs, and if the government would import/manufacture the drugs itself and then sell it to the people. I'm not arguing for prohibition, that's a no-brainer. If you want to smoke or consume any drug, do it.
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