(July 14, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The mistake you make is separating Jesus from God, they are one and the same.
A child is born into this world through blood, and pain, do you consider that to be sadistic?
No, I consider that to be part of the suffering that is inherent in the natural course of life. If it were a punishment that your god had inflicted on women, I would consider it sadistic, and I would consider your god sadistic for doing it.
Fuck your semantics-mongering trinity bullshit. Jesus may have been god, but he was also the son of god, which means god the father decided to sacrifice god the son, even if he was also sacrificing himself. The trinity is nothing but an argumentative convenience that allows you to treat god as either one thing or many things, and to switch back and forth at will to keep dodging arguments. It's the device by which a clearly polytheistic religion touts the claim of being a monotheistic religion. It is sneaky, underhanded, and dishonest; in other words, it's very christian of you.
In any case, Jesus/Jehovah knew what he was doing, what was being done to him, and why it was all happening, and he still did it on purpose. The men in your story (who, by the way, actually fucking existed, unlike anyone else we're talking about), had no such knowledge and made no such choices. People just did that to them. The mistake YOU make is that you have no understanding of the concept of informed consent, or at least your response doesn't indicate that. It only indicates you're willing to throw up more obfuscation when someone is pinning you to the floor with a sack of your own bullshit.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com