(July 14, 2015 at 2:38 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children;- Genesis 3:16
Yes...I know...I'm fully aware of this passage. That's kind of why I said that. You obviously missed the point. The point is that if this passage is true, your god is a sadistic fuck by his own account to punish all the women of the human race for a single transgression of one woman. Every time your god does anything, for that matter, it's generally some heinously evil bullshit that he somehow insists we brought on ourselves. Your god, if he existed as written, is completely amoral and the worst kind of abuser.
Quote:I have never claimed God existed in a trinity, he has only ever been One God..
Are you married? do you have kids? If so then you a husband, father, and son.... does that make you three different people?
Semantic bullshit, semantic bullshit, and more semantic bullshit.
If god the son and god the father are the same person, then who is he the son of? I get whose father you think he is (everyone's...how lucky we all would be...), but whose son is he?
Besides, even if he sacrificed himself so we didn't have to account for our own actions, how is that admirable? Why require blood sacrifice at all? Why does sin require blood? If god made those rules, he could have just as easily made a system less capricious and brutal. If he did not make those rules, and refers to rules higher than himself, than he is not all-powerful, nor is he the highest source of universal morality.
Quote:So you admit that science has committed that atrocity and that you don't believe "vicarious redemption" ever actually happened anyway. It seems you should make better use of your time and protest science.
Oh, I see what you're saying here. Look...the fact that scientists infected a bunch of black dudes with syphilis isn't a failing of science. It's a failing of those people's ethics. I don't know the specifics of that case, but if we could interview those scientists, we might find many of them had religious motivation both for being willing to sacrifice other humans for the greater good, and for choosing black people as the appropriate sacrifice. Racism and human sacrifice are both things that christianity especially seems to squee over, so I'd pin it on them, personally, but that would be making ungrounded assertions. The best I can do is speculate, I suppose.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com