LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!

[Huggy Bear]

Are you saying a cure doesn't free from what distresses or harms?
Are you saying a cure doesn't extricate from or help to overcome something detrimental?
Are you saying a cure doesn't offset the bad effect of?

A cure is indeed redemption because it is meant to restore you back to health. Just as Jesus' sacrifice was to restore man back to what he originally was in the beginning.

Are you just not reading my posts before you disagree with them? Come back when you actually understand why we object to the Jesus narrative's vicarious redemption, because I don't have the time for someone who refuses to know what he's talking about, but still thinks he has some informed position from which to disagree. The objection to the Jesus redemption is not present in the medical one; if you're intent on just playing definition games to attempt to win points then I'll just use your terminology. It doesn't get you any closer to being right, anyway.

"Driving," is not the objectionable part of "drunk driving," and "redemption" is not at issue in this discussion, if we're to go along with your definitions.

here is your definition.

It doesn't matter whether the sins were those of the current day or all future ones, the issue is that the Jesus scenario concerns someone taking on the atonement of people who should, morally and personally, be doing the atonement themselves.

Let me put it simply, syphilis is a std.
If one were to say, obey the bible and not engage in premarital sex and remain faithful to their spouse, then one should not contract syphilis.. but if you engage in premarital unprotected sex and contract syphilis then THAT IS YOUR OWN FAULT, and they should suffer the consequences of their actions right?

But due to the sacrifice of human test subjects, those infected, THROUGH THEIR OWN ACTIONS are able to restore themselves back to a healthy condition. Experimenting on themselves to find their own cure would be an impossibility.

Likewise as the bible state the punishment for sin is DEATH... this means TOTAL ANNIHILATION, a price that is impossible to pay because to pay it means to be removed from existence, got it? So it is necessary for someone else to pay it.

The funny thing is your advocating that everyone should be wiped out of existence (thought you were against genocide?), Jesus death was to prevent that exact scenario from happening.

And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, - Revelation 5:1-6