RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2015 at 10:19 pm by Redbeard The Pink.)
(July 14, 2015 at 7:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(July 14, 2015 at 3:05 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Semantic bullshit, semantic bullshit, and more semantic bullshit.
If god the son and god the father are the same person, then who is he the son of? I get whose father you think he is (everyone's...how lucky we all would be...), but whose son is he?
You're applying human limitations on God.
God created for himself a body in Jesus Christ and since the body was begotten or produced by God, God is the Father.
Here is an easy way to visualize it.
God = God above us
Son = God with us
Holy Spirit = God in us
It's the same God, just fulfilling different roles.
Semantic. Bull. Shit.
Also, good job honing in on the easiest point to quibble over and acting like you're done. Regardless of what mental gymnastics you have to do to convince yourself that Jesus was his own daddy without being from Arkansas, you still haven't really addressed the important question: why demand a human sacrifice at all? Why demand a blood sacrifice at all, for that matter?
The logic seems to be that SOMEBODY had to be punished for all that sin, but this begs yet another question: why? What prevents a perfectly benevolent god from forgiving without blood being spilled? I can do that. I do it all the time. Why can I, a flawed human, forgive someone essentially on a whim, while the perfectly benevolent and loving god of the universe has to shed blood?
If it's because it has to be that way whether he likes it or not, then he is not all-powerful, for he can't do something that even I can do and is somehow bound by a set of rules that do not bind me. If it's because he chooses for it to be that way, then he is not perfectly benevolent, for a perfectly benevolent god would simply forgive without demanding anything.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com