(July 18, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(July 18, 2015 at 9:45 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Scripture describes God as a hidden God. This means you have to make an effort of faith to find him, and there are clues you can follow. If that weren’t so, if there was something more or less than clues, we would not be free to make a choice about Him. If we had absolute proof instead of clues, then we could no more deny God than we could deny the sun. If we had no evidence at all, you could never get to faith. God gives us just enough evidence so that those who want Him can have while those that don’t want Him are not forced to do so. Those who want to follow the clues will.
The Bible says, Seek and ye shall find.” It does not say that everybody will find Him; it doesn’t say that nobody will find him. Some will find him. Who? Those who seek. Those whose hearts are set on finding Him and who follow the clues.
The evidence that God has established has been finely tuned to allow you to find it without overwhelming your free will and coercion.
So I guess the important question to ask there is the one that you're assuming in your argument and in essence taking it for granted, which is: why is finding god in this way a thing that needs to happen?
Simple. And don't jump ahead...just answer the question.
What happens when we die?