(July 18, 2015 at 10:08 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(July 18, 2015 at 9:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Esquilax-
I've become pretty familiar with the doctrinal differences over the years. I suspect you could too with only a modicum of effort. You could begin with what CS Lewis called "Mere Christianity" (in a book by the same title) and expand from there.
Well, for you that makes some form of sense, since you believe that those doctrines resolve to something factual. But for me, it's all hypothetical, and the knowledge has limited use until such time as someone actually brings it up, if they ever do. I do sometimes read what theists recommend to me, I'm not averse to cracking a book, just embarking on a course of study without a conversational payload seems like a wasted effort. I'll see if I can track down CS Lewis though, I know he's a popular name in the circuit.
That said, I'm not totally barren on the basics either; everything I've said about christian doctrine tends to come from somewhere. If you disagree with something I've said then that's most likely because the christian it came from is from another denomination or belief system. I won't ever assert that christians believe something that I haven't heard from a christian; what you see as misinformation is probably more accurately called a doctrinal difference in itself.
Quote:PS - I've not read van Til, but it's my understanding that he was a presuppositionalist, correct? I know how you feel about that....
Yeah, it drives me absolutely loco.Thankfully it takes the guy a while to get to that level of craptitude, he has some ideas that aren't just the usual presup drivel, but you can't exactly accuse me of not reading opposing points of view on that score.
Let me ask you this question, though. Would it make more sense to argue about something like the trinity, for example, if you actually understood the Catholic view of that doctrine rather than the straw man proposed by someone like Steel Curtain in this forum?