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Poll: Which one of these is your biggest objection?
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Objections: The Gathering
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RE: Objections: The Gathering
(July 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: In this thread, we will be gathering the objections to theism in general and Christianity in particular.  Feel free to add your own to the thread.

  1. If there's a loving God, why does this pain-wracked world groan under so much suffering and evil?
  2. If there miracles of God contradict science, then how can any rational person believe they are true?
  3. If God really created the universe, why does the persuasive evidence of science compel so many to conclude that the unguided process of evolution accounts for life?
  4. If God is morally pure, how can He sanction the slaughter of innocent children as the Old Testament says He did?
  5. If Jesus is the only way to heaven, then what about the millions of people who never heard of Him?
  6. If God cares about the people He created, how could He consign so many of them to an eternity of torture in hell just because they didn't believe the right things about Him?
  7. If God is the ultimate overseer of the Church, why has it been rife with hypocrisy and brutality through the ages?
  8. If I'm still plagued by doubts, is it still possible to be a Christian?

I don't think or care about any of these questions.  None of them is germane to why I'm not a Christian.  Frankly all of these are like fan fiction from where I sit.  It is like wondering if Jon in Game of Thrones will come back to life and if so what manner of magic will be responsible?  Fun to ponder but we shouldn't forget we are talking about fictional characters.

How about: if I were the xtian god and looked forward to having all the good ones sitting around my table as soon as they die .. forever .. why make them imperfect and mortal to begin with.  If dinner with the lord forever is such a great thing, why not just create them there to begin with?  Understand, I don't have any problem myself with the character of God doing things His way.  I mean, hell, he is fucking God, right?  But in trying to develop a little empathy for this character, I just don't find his decisions very interesting.
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Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 2:42 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by AFTT47 - July 19, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Barefoot Bum - July 19, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Cato - July 19, 2015 at 3:29 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by brewer - July 19, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Jenny A - July 19, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Pyrrho - July 19, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by abaris - July 19, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Jenny A - July 19, 2015 at 9:58 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Ravenshire - July 19, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 19, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:05 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 19, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Dystopia - July 19, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 19, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 19, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 20, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Tiberius - July 19, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Longhorn - July 19, 2015 at 4:46 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Pizza - July 19, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Metis - July 19, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Barefoot Bum - July 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Metis - July 19, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by abaris - July 19, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Catholic_Lady - July 19, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by abaris - July 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Catholic_Lady - July 19, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by abaris - July 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by abaris - July 19, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Ravenshire - July 19, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Pyrrho - July 19, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Catholic_Lady - July 19, 2015 at 8:19 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:13 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Catholic_Lady - July 19, 2015 at 8:11 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Nope - July 20, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Catholic_Lady - July 20, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Cephus - July 20, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Objections: The Gathering - by KUSA - July 19, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Dystopia - July 19, 2015 at 7:43 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Faith No More - July 19, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Faith No More - July 19, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Nope - July 20, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Jenny A - July 19, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by dyresand - July 19, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Spooky - July 19, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Angrboda - July 19, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Thumpalumpacus - July 19, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by KevinM1 - July 20, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Thumpalumpacus - July 20, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Crossless1 - July 20, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Whateverist - July 20, 2015 at 1:20 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by robvalue - July 20, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Minimalist - July 20, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Crossless1 - July 20, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Thumpalumpacus - July 21, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Minimalist - July 20, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Nope - July 20, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Lemonvariable72 - July 20, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by Cephus - July 20, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Objections: The Gathering - by pocaracas - July 20, 2015 at 6:33 pm

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