(July 5, 2012 at 4:59 am)Rayaan Wrote: The existence of an "intelligence" that I was talking about are based on my own inductive reasoning of the world around me and not something that I came to conclude based on scientific facts nor experimentation. So, I don't think that this is empiricism, but mainly a metaphysical view.
Yeah but it ends up inserting empirical amongst metaphisical evidence, which for me ends up in car crashes of logic. People of my faith do the same thing, so this isn't something I hold against you. I'm fatally attracted to the understanding people who profess such beliefs. I don't find I can agree with it, but I find it very interesting.
(July 5, 2012 at 4:59 am)Rayaan Wrote: I know that you believe that there is no empirical evidence of God (which I don't disagree with either), but then what are some of your metaphysical arguments? Do you have any?
Well I believe I made one in my 1st post in this thread. Meaning and purpose are all bound up in metaphysical thinking and it is what informs our world view. For materialists this is a complete non starter and a huge unresolved conflict they somehow live with.
(July 5, 2012 at 4:59 am)Rayaan Wrote: "All conclusions lead back to god." <- Well, that seems like a very vague critera unless you specify what are some of those conclusions and demonstrate how they "necessarily" imply that only the Chrisitian God is real.It's not vague. It's just not dealing with the minutae. The detail is just that, very detailed. For anything to make sense metaphysically, it is my contention that the christian god is the only satisfactory answer. I work that out continually. Why should I act positively? Because it makes sense in the wider scheme of things that positivity is life. Any question you pick makes sense including God. Minus God it fails to make sense.
(July 5, 2012 at 4:59 am)Rayaan Wrote: My own view works and I explained this in great length in this thread. This was a mixture of both science and metaphysics (physics being one of the branches of metaphysics since metaphysics essentially deals with the fundamental nature of reality).You seem to be expanding in that thread on your Intelligent Design beliefs. It's a bit of a wall of texts. I tried several times to read it. Could you precis it for us?
