RE: The 'old testament' argument
March 27, 2013 at 1:51 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 2:23 am by A_Nony_Mouse.)
(March 26, 2013 at 1:14 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: [quote='A_Nony_Mouse' pid='420683' dateline='1364198479']...truth is an abstract noun and that abstract nouns have no real existence. I do not understand people who do not recognize an abstract noun when they see one.Quote:The real question is this. Do abstract nouns have or convey meaning?
Of course a word conveys meaning but they do not necessarily refer to a thing which really exists. That a word has a meaning does not mean it describes a thing which exists. It is often quite simple. There is blue light. That is photons which when striking our retinas we call blue. It is not as though there is blue independent of photons and our retinas.
So we may use blue as a noun, talk about blueness, but in reality it can never be more than an adjective and describe reality.
Similarly we can have a true recounting of reality as best as a person knows it but we cannot have truth independent of that reality. Neither a pound of blue nor a pound of truth can exist independent of things regardless of how we use the words. That we can talk about four sided triangles does not mean they can exist.
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Someone has taught you a lie, truth is an objective moral period. It's standard comes from God who is truth, God does not practice truth, He is Truth.
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In regard to the fruit, "in that day you will surely die" means your god practices lying as they did not die in that day. That you will claim your god had crossed its fingers behind its back and claim it really meant death some nine centuries later can only mean your god is still a childish, juvenile who has not yet learned the meaning of telling the truth.
As for your god being truth, you are going to have to give the definition of the word truth you are using as you are not using the meanings given in the dictionary. Using secret definitions of words is not permitted in public discussions as it makes them impossible.